Thursday, July 26, 2007

Playing to the Dem base

The inimitable Ann Coulter humiliates (well, she would if her subjects were paying attention) Democrat Presidential candidates Obama and Clinton for debate red meat to the Democrat Party base. Here's the op/ed . . . pick it apart if you can (BTW: I'll concede that referring to Barack Obama as "B. Hussein Obama" is uncalled for). Here's a peek:
Fox News ought to buy a copy of Monday's Democrat debate on CNN to play over and over during the general election campaign. For now, the Democratic candidates need to appeal only to their nut-base. So on Monday night, the candidates casually spouted liberal conspiracy theories that would frighten normal Americans, but are guaranteed to warm the hearts of losers blogging from their mother's basements.

17 comments:

Sean Braisted said...

Wow, I guess Ann Coulter doesn't get a joke unless the word "faggot" is involved.

Barack Obama wasn't calling for some commission to investigate whether black people can get cabs in New York, he simply regurgitated on old joke about black people not being able to get a cab. Was it stale? Probably, but it did what it was intended to do, make people laugh.

ned said...

Well, I didn't know that she was referencing a joke, but you know what they say about humor . . . it's only funny if there is a hint of truth to it (or perceived truth).

Sean Braisted said...

He was asked by a Youtuber whether he was "black enough." While he could've said, "Yes, my melanin content and racial lineage puts me well within the boundaries of what is considered 'black' in today's culter"...he decided instead to use some levity; to each his own I suppose.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfFUVK_OA-s

Sean Braisted said...

culter=culture

ned said...

True, levity was a fine way to handle a stupid question like that (how in the world did that get selected? how many Dem voters are asking that question? yikes) . . . however, the answer and audience response can beg the question of how many folks in the audience (not to mention sitting in Obama's seat) believe that Blacks get discriminated against by cabbies in NY?

Analyzing jokes is always risky business, but the "humor" in the joke is certainly not that blacks would never be discriminated against, right? It is that--regardless of a youtuber's view, he's black enough to get discriminated against and confident enough to laugh such discrimination off.

Sean Braisted said...

"It is that--regardless of a youtuber's view, he's black enough to get discriminated against and confident enough to laugh such discrimination off."

That is how I took it, yes. Barack Obama experiences (or did before he became famous) whatever discriminations that a black person descended of slaves does. That is more or less the argument some black people are making. That because he is not descended from slaves, rather an African Immigrant in the 60s, that he is not "black".

Basically, its the idea that "black" is a culture, not a skin color, and the question is whether a son of an African Immigrant and white woman is part of that culture or not.

ned said...

Is "being black" a new requirement for being elected president?

But I know that is what the point of the question was, AND the point of the joke. But Coulter's point was that neither Barack or the blackest man in America is getting discriminated against by cabbies . . . see the reason that it was a red meat-though-seemingly-flippant joke?

Sean Braisted said...

Sure, I guess for the same reason Coulter's "faggot" joke was.

Sean Braisted said...

And not that this joke really needs to be dissected as much as it has been...but Barack say that this happened "in the past," so all of Ann Coulter's wonderful research is meaningless, because he was jokingly referencing a past problem.

ned said...

True, that joke definitely constituted red meat . . . and it was very un-PC.

I don't recall defending her for saying it, though. It was a cheap shot . . . namecalling . . . and it had nothing to do with Edwards' foolish politics or policies.

Sean Braisted said...

say=said

ned said...

Yes he did say, "in the past." Which raises another question I think: are you asserting that the majority of the Democrat base does NOT believe that racism is a serious problem that gov't has to tackle (and I don't mean by removing racial preferences and quotas)?

I would submit that the majority of the Dem base feels that racial discrimination is endemic and serious and has to be addressed . . . heck, even Obama's answer started with that premise.

Sean Braisted said...

Is racial discrimination still a problem? I'm sure in some instances. Its slowly being whittled away by new generations coming up, but there is some evidence there are racial disparities in things such as college acceptance, jobs, mortgage rates, etc...Does the Democratic base think that cabs not stopping for Black people is still a problem? Does it really matter?

ned said...

Does it matter? I dunno. But I don't think it is illegitimate for Coulter to call out Obama (and Clinton) for appealing to prejudices/unfounded fears of the Dem base.

Sean Braisted said...

heh, well, if she is gonna spend the next year and a half parsing every candidate's tongue-in-cheek one liner jokes for accuracy, it's a good thing. Because that will at least keep her busy so she has less time to spread her hate and venom.

ned said...

Does her tongue-in-cheek one liner about John Edwards' patsiness (and PC codes against saying the word "faggot") constitute "hate and venom"?

But again, the joke/comment from Obama was simply one exhibit in Coulter's op/ed asserting that Liberal myths don't die easily.

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