Tuesday, November 06, 2007

Thompson, talk radio and talking trash

Maybe they're right about talk radio.

This morning I wasted 25 cell phone minutes waiting to speak truth to power on the state-wide talk radio program "Talk of Tennessee" hosted by Steve Gill. As I waited, Gill kept ratcheting up the rhetoric . . . and then the show ended before he took my call. Here's some of what I was going to say:

Gill (who, incidentally, wrote a flattering book about Fred Thompson's likely presidential run: The Fred Factor) was defending Thompson from critics like Mike Huckabee who have been questioning Thompson's convictions on a host of so-called social issues (actually, I had yet to hear of the criticism until Gill spoke about it on the radio--apparently Huckabee is getting some traction in the campaign). Thompson is staking out a position that Federal action on a host of issues is unwise and even--depending on the particular issue, unconstitutional. Well, that's where he's wrong. Or at least Steve Gill is wrong when he asserts that Huckabee doesn't care about the Constitution because he thinks it ought to be amended to protect human life in the womb (Gill also repeatedly questioned the motives and the sincerity of "supposedly pro-life" activists; very insulting, but I don't have time to address that now).

First, the Constitution provides for an amendment process. If a person thinks a right--such as the right to live, ought to be spelled out in the Constitution, then that person can attempt to amend the Constitution to include that right. There are certain principles or rights the protection of which is legitimately not left to the discretion of the States . . . "life" is reasonably considered one of those rights. That's fine if Thompson doesn't think it is, but it is not fine to assert that it is anti-Federalist to acknowledge the existence of such rights or unconstitutional to attempt to amend the Constitution to recognize such rights.

Second, Thompson's reaction (and that of some present supporters) is doing little to assuage the concern of voters who think that abortion is "not a government issue" (as Thompson asserted in his first run for the U.S. Senate) or something that is okay in some states and not okay in other states. Thompson has been straddling the issue of abortion since entering public life. I really resent someone tearing me a new one for wanting more than a pat answer regarding Thompson's views on an issue that is very important to me.

Which leads me to this WaPo article on the subject. In GOP Race, Blurring the Lines in the Abortion Debate | The Trail | washingtonpost.com:
"The simple way to look at the abortion divide in the Republican race is Rudy against the rest: one abortion rights supporter against a field of abortion opponents. But take a closer look and the distinctions begin to blur -- not in whether other leading candidates support a woman's right to choose or believe abortion should be outlawed in most or all circumstances, but in what each might do about it as president.

On that question, Thompson and Giuliani and the others are not so far apart. This became clearer on Sunday when Thompson appeared on NBC's 'Meet The Press' as part of the candidates' right (sic) of passage with host Tim Russert. Russert grilled Thompson at some length on abortion and in the course of the discussion, Thompson said two things of note:

First, he said that, as a senator, he had a '100 percent pro-life' voting record. Second, he said that he does not support the Republican Party's platform plank on abortion, which calls for passage of a Human Life Amendment to the Constitution."
First, though I'm glad that Thompson voted the "right" on abortion when he was in the U.S. Senate, the National Right to Life Committee's legislative scorecard on abortion (or any scorecard, for that matter) is only useful for predicting how someone would vote (assuming, of course, that the person didn't "evolve" on the issue as is common these days) on issues that came up for a vote before him/her while they were in office. The issues--or aspects of a given issue, can be rather narrow depending on the particular period during which the person served, frankly.

Second, as I detailed above, I hope Thompson (and his supporters) can appreciate that a Pro-life voter views abortion as different than laws on marijuana use or insurance regulation or speed limits. It is reasonable--as Gill argued this morning, to assert that Thompson's idea of a Federalist approach would spare more human life than holding out for a nationwide ban on abortion, but please forgive us for being reticent in acceding to a legal position that we vehemently disagree with.

I may very well end up supporting Thompson out of all those in the current GOP field, but I won't be persuaded by disingenuous and/or pugnacious treatment by him or his supporters.

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'm no Thompson supporter. Just to make that clear..

Don't you think the dictum: 'the enemy of good is perfect' applies here?

Why beat your head against the wall for an unlikely 'perfect' solution, when a less-than-perfect response might at least ameliorate the problem somewhere.

I'm not getting into the abortion debate, and like I'm said, i'm no Thompson supporter, but isn't that what he is really saying here?

ned said...

Good point, John.

Definitely that's the argument, and I think it is a fair one to make. I just don't think it's fair to deride someone who isn't as "pragmatic" or who probes a candidate regarding the issue . . . you know, is their "pragmatism" merely a manifestation of their indifference to the principle involved?

Frankly, McCain has the same vulnerability--he seems too "pragmatic" on too many issues to be convincing when he claims to be principled.

Donna Locke said...

Forcing a female to bear a child against her wishes infringes on rights spelled out and interpreted in the Constitution, beginning with "life" itself. The female's life -- life in every sense, beginning with the fact that pregnancy and childbirth are risks to any female's life and health.

ned said...

Well, not that it is the point of my post, Donna, but at what point does not allowing a woman to get an abortion become "forcing her to bear a child against her wishes"?

Donna Locke said...

Ned, if the pregnancy progresses far enough, the female will be bearing the child, against her wishes or not, and the risks of childbirth kick in. Abortion at that point, the later stages, is essentially childbirth.

My views: A woman or girl should be allowed to abort a fetus at any time to save her own life. In the early months of pregnancy, she should be allowed to abort a fetus for any reason. In the later months, third trimester, when a healthy fetus can survive without major handicap outside the womb, this would give more women pause, but still I wouldn't say abortion at that stage is wrong or should be illegal. For me personally, I probably wouldn't do it at that stage unless the pregnancy was threatening my own life or the fetus was unhealthy or severely deformed.

I am against bringing severely flawed vehicles into the world, because to do so is to enable suffering; the enablers would not have to live that life. Nature itself aborts many fetuses at that stage.

I did almost die bearing my first child. I do have permanent body damage from that decision. I would NEVER tell another female what to do about a pregnancy, unless the female was a minor. In the case of a minor, I would advise that the child abort the fetus, that the female child already here might have her full chance at life.

Personally, as a mother myself, I believe -- and my beliefs are surely as valid as anyone else's, since nothing in this area can be proven -- that the soul or essence of personhood or whatever you want to call it does not enter the body vehicle until the moment of birth. I do not believe a fetus -- a developing vehicle -- is a person, yet. My experiences during pregnancy bolster and form the basis of that belief, which for me is more than belief, it is knowing.

For me the overriding deep feeling and belief is that the life already here, the life already born, should have, must have, precedence. I have to support the wishes of the girl or woman carrying the fetus. She, no one else, must control her body and her life. Without that essential freedom, there is no freedom at all.